Thursday, May 13, 2010

Re: [ZESTCaste] Do you think caste-based census needs to be resumed? Or will it just lead to an increase in casteism and conflict?

 

INDIA MEANS CASTE OR CASTES,  WITHOUT CASTE THERE IS NO INDIA,
 
CASTE IS CREATED FOR A PURPOSE, IT WAS CREATED FOR THE BENIFIT OF THOSE WHO CREATE CASTE. BEFORE CONSTITUTION CASTE IS A BENEFICIAL FOR UPPER CASTE. PEOPLE READING AND PRCTICING HINDU SASTRAS AND FOLLOWING IT. WHAT THE VEDAS, SMIRITIS,PURANAS TEACHES ? IT JUSTIFIES CASTE SYSTEM. PEOPLE BELIVE CASTE SYSTEM IS GOOD FOR SOCIETY. SO INDIANS CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT CASTE. A MAN WENT TO ASK DRINKING WATER FROM A CASTE HINDU. BEFORE GIVING WATER HE WILL ASK, WHOU ARE YOU ?PERSON WITH GOOD POSITION. HE WILL ASK  WHO ARE YOU? HE WILL SAY, I AM A HINDU, THEN ANOTHER QUESTION, WHAT IS YOUR CASTE ? AFTER ANOTHER CASTE WHAT IS YOUR SUB CASTE? THIS IS HAPPENING IN INDIA. TO GET A SOME DRINKING WATER , A CASTE HINDU NEEDS LOT OF QESTIONS. WHEN THEY ENTER INTO THE MARRIAGE WORLD , WHAT IS YOUR KULAM, KOTHRAM,CASTE, JATHAGAM, HERE ONLY CASTE SYSTEM STARTS. IF YOU DID NOT STATE CASTE QUSTIONS WHEN YOU ENTER INTO A MARRIAGE CASTE WILL DIE. NOW COMMING YOU YOUR QESTION. WHY CASTE CENSUS? WHEN A RESERVATION BASED ON CASTE AND IT NUMBER, POLITICAL RESERVATION ALSO BASED ON POPULALTION IN THE CONSTITUTION. MANDAL COMMISSION REPORT ALSO BASED CASTE AND THEIR NUMBER. SO TO GIVE EXACT PERCENNTAGE REAL CENSUS IS MUST. BUT THOSE WHO CREATED THE CASTE SYSTEM ARE VERY SMALL IN NUMBER. THOSE WHO RULE INDIA ALSO VERY SMALL IN NUMBER. SO THEY GOT FEAR IN FUTURE RULING . SO THEY AFRAID TO TAKE CASTE BASE CENSUS. AFTER TAKING THE CASTE BASED CENSUS INDIA WILL GET MORE CHANGES. IT WILL OPEN THE EYES OF MANY. NOW THOSE WHO THE VICTIM OF THE CASTE SYSTEM WILL BECOME THE RULERS OF INDIA. NOBODY CANNOT STOP. THE FIRST RULEER FROM THE VICTIM OFTHE CASTE SYSTEM WILL BE  THE GREAT MAYAWATI JI.
--- On Thu, 5/6/10, Siddhartha Kumar <mailsiddhartha.k@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Siddhartha Kumar <mailsiddhartha.k@gmail.com>
Subject: [ZESTCaste] Do you think caste-based census needs to be resumed? Or will it just lead to an increase in casteism and conflict?
To: "zestcaste" <zestcaste@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 5:43 PM

 
http://www.dnaindia .com/india/ message-board_ do-you-think- caste-based- census-needs- to-be-resumed- or-will-it- just-lead- to-an-increase- in-casteism- and-conflict_ 1379708

Do you think caste-based census needs to be resumed? Or will it just
lead to an increase in casteism and conflict?

Thursday, May 6, 2010 12:34 IST
The demand for restoration of caste-based census has got a boost with
members of the Union Cabinet making a forceful pitch for the
enumeration of OBCs (other backward classes) nationally. Among those
arguing strongly for the return of caste census are OBC faces such as
law minister M Veerappa Moily, minister for overseas affairs Vayalar
Ravi, telecom minister Andimuthu Raja and fertiliser minister MK
Alagiri.

The development came after a strong demand in Parliament for revival
of caste census. The BJP and the left parties joined OBC leaders
Mulayam Singh Yadav, Lalu Prasad, and Sharad Yadav in demanding that
caste be brought back as a census criterion.

The last census to enumerate caste was in 1931, when the British were
ruling India and Lord Irwin was the viceroy. There was no census in
1941, thanks to the Second World War. After independence, India's
founding fathers decided to do away with caste as a census criterion
because of their desire to build a casteless society.

Now politicians, particularly from the OBCs, are demanding resumption
of caste enumeration in the census. In fact, they want it done in the
exercise that is already under way. They say the reality of caste in
India cannot be wished away and enumerating caste would help in
implementation of many policies based on caste, such as reservation in
education and employment.

But those opposed to such a census say the dream of a casteless social
order should not be given up and efforts should be made to weaken the
caste structure based on oppression of those at the bottom of the
hierarchy.

Do you think it is time to revive caste-based census? Or will it
merely worsen the divide in society?

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