in total agreement, we need to reclaim the world from ambedkar's lens the oppressed will constitute the majority in parliament- including dalits more than their share in the population,. they will own assets more.. their growth rates would be double tht of national growth rates... inclusive growth is a rubbish concept. we need dalits, adviasis, unorganised , slum dwellers, pavement dwellers, migrants (i know i am mixing caste and class) to grow faster than economy.
for those who think tn is doing better, the dalit and non dalit disparities are higher with rgard to poverty than India.
Ranjani
--- On Thu, 17/3/11, Nagesh Chaudhari <chaudhari.nagesh@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: Nagesh Chaudhari <chaudhari.nagesh@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [ZESTCaste] Dalit Socialists Via Dalit Capitalists: A Response To Anand Teltumbde
To: ZESTCaste@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 17 March, 2011, 4:21 PM
The debate on Dalit capitalists is welcome. My observation is that as long as
caste system, untouchability are alive in India Dalits cacnot become
capitalists. Even OBC capitalists are Shudras and they cannot succeed unless
they serve the upper castes or brahmins. Mr. Teltumde is a marxist in the
company of upper caste marxists. Marxism is the refuge of Brahmins in India. My
obsevation is, as you climb the caste model you find increasing no. of marxists.
In Maharashtra for example, you will find Dalits as takers for Jotirao Fule.
Acceptance decreases as you go upward in the caste heirarchy. Dalits , OBC follw
Fule but Marathas do it with reservations. For Ex. Sharad Patil, a maratha, does
not accept Fule completely. Joins Fule with Marx. Baba Adhao, a socialist
Maratha accepts Fule attaching Prgressive word. He runs 'Purogami Satyashohak;
magazine. Sharad Patil edited for some years the marathi monthly Styashodhak
Marxwadi. (Satyashodhjak movement was launched by Fule in 1873 which was against
Brahmanic machination.)When you come to Brahmins they do not consider Fule at
all. Brahmins consider joining Fule or Ambedkar with Marx as inferior ideology
or contaminaztion of Marx. They considred them as stooges of British imperialism
and that was and is the view of RSS Brahmins, too.
As Marxism is an idealogy for classless society and does'nt touch upon caste
system. It is helpful to maintain the caste heirarchy and also talk of classless
society. Brahmanism is safe in marxism.
________________________________
From: Siddhartha Kumar <mailsiddhartha.k@gmail.com>
To: zestcaste <zestcaste@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, 9 March, 2011 1:31:05 PM
Subject: [ZESTCaste] Dalit Socialists Via Dalit Capitalists: A Response To Anand
Teltumbde
http://www.countercurrents.org/karthick080311.htm
Dalit Socialists Via Dalit Capitalists: A Response To Anand Teltumbde
By Karthick RM
08 March, 2011
Countercurrents.org
This article is intended as a response to Anand Teltumbde Dalit
Capitalism And Pseudo Dalitism on Countercurrents dated 7th March,
2011...
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