Friday, February 5, 2010

[ZESTCaste] telangana: a movement without a social agenda 3

 

http://kufr.blogspot.com/2010/02/telangana-movement-without-social_04.html

06/02/10
telangana: a movement without a social agenda 3

kancha ilaiah in why i am not a hindu:

What further separated a Hindu from us was the nature of the
consciousness of the other world, the divine and the spiritual. For
children from our castes, Jeja (the concept of God) is introduced in
the form of the moon. As children grow up, they also get acquainted
with Pochamma, Polimeramma, Kattamaisamma, Kaatamaraju, Potaraju and
other deities. Among Dalitbahujans, there is no concept of a temple in
a definite place or form. Goddesses and Gods live in all shapes and in
different places.
i'd written nearly an year ago:

madigas, and over fifty other dalit castes in andhra pradesh have been
agitating over the last fifteen years for dividing the scheduled
castes into categories (as it is done in the case of obcs) to ensure
that, according to their view, not all the fruits of reservations are
cornered by a couple of castes. there have also been barely covered
reports of similar movements across the country. now this demand needs
to be debated seriously across a wide range of fora because it
involves not just madigas and other castes in andhra pradesh, but
dalits, primarily, and all other classes of people across the country.
from 300 million to one billion people.
no debate happened anywhere outside andhra pradesh, and in andhra
pradesh too the debate on categorisation of dalits, which had been
allowed to degenerate into an endless internecine war along the
mala-madiga divide among the dalits (watched, egged on many times,
eagerly by upper caste political bosses and various assorted
kind-hearted liberals among the brahminized classes) got drowned in
the debate over another synthetic divide, telangana. while the
debaters took to the streets and the courts and nothing got resolved,
they took the battle into their homes and their hearts. and to their
divided neighbourhoods in the villages, outside the villages. the
political bosses never took it to parliament, which in the supreme
court's opinion is the right forum to debate the issue, and powerful
parliamentarians, of course, never notice an issue that happens
outside delhi on their own unless....say, a famous cricketer or film
star is involved. but what would parliament have done?

it'd have taken an easy way out, like a very frustrated and tired
manda krishna madiga, perhaps. he, along with his organization mrps
('madiga reservation porata samiti'), joined the telangana movement
formally on the day kcr started his fast, a couple of months ago. as
recently as that. does that mean the dalits of telangana actively
support a movement that has been almost entirely led by upper caste
political leaders for the past nine years? it means they're frustrated
and tired running around every kind of constitutional institution
looking for just, constitutional solutions to their problems but now
have given up and feel geography might help. does it mean the dalits
of telangana have suddenly discovered they share a common culture with
their erstwhile feudal masters? that they were never separated from
the hindus, culturally, as ilaiah says? when krishna madiga shares a
platform with assorted reddy, velama, kamma, kapu political leaders
from the congress, bjp, various communist and other parties it doesn't
mean caste barriers have suddenly crumbled to dust, it only means
they've grown so strong that even dalits can't recognize each other as
equals.

so, the madigas of telangana think a separated telangana would help
them gain better access to reserved seats and jobs because they form
the majority (among dalits) in telangana. how about the other smaller
castes who would then be elbowed out of the race for reserved seats
and jobs by the dominant caste among dalits, the madigas? what'd
parliament do to resolve that issue? divide every region, district and
village in the country into separate states because so that no dalit
caste would dominate another?

the telangana movement is not a dalit movement, in fact it's a
movement designed to paralyse any concerted efforts by the dalits in
andhra pradesh to overcome caste, to fight caste together.

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[ZESTCaste] Seminar on Ambedkar and Dalit Movement Held

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=71826&n_tit=Mangalore%3A+Seminar+on+Ambedkar+and+Dalit+Movement+Held+

Saturday, February 06, 2010 8:13:57 AM (IST)
Mangalore: Seminar on Ambedkar and Dalit Movement Held

Mangalore, Feb 6: Kancha Ilaya, revolutionary Dalit writer, has
dedicated his latest book, "Post-Hindu India", to the Buddha, Jesus,
Muhammad, Karl Marx and Ambedkar, referring to all of them as
prophets.

He was delivering the keynote address at a seminar on "Ambedkar and
the contemporary Dalit movement in India", organised by Mangalore
University's Centre for Dr. B.R. Ambedkar Studies here on Friday. He
said that Ambedkar had influenced a large number of people across a
wide area.

The Buddha, through his concept of "sangham" or the communitarian,
created the first organised religious denomination at a time when
Hinduism was disorganised and Islam and Christianity were yet to be
born. While the Buddha preached a life of spirituality, Jesus was the
first to introduce the concepts of "God" and "all are equal before
God" at a time when Israel was a loose collection of hierarchical
groups with the Samaritans at the bottom.

Reformation


Muhammad, he said, reformed the Arab world, which was a constellation
of tribes before the onset of his philosophy. And Marx managed to
capture the imagination of a post-industrialised Europe, where the
workers were an oppressed lot.

Ambedkar attempted to breach, what was in his time, the last edifice
of oppression in the world by liberating the 'lower' castes of the
Indian subcontinent. "His liberation of Dalits by encouraging them to
embrace Buddhism made him a prophet of equal standing with the rest,"
he said.

However, the placing of Ambedkar as a prophet alongside the likes of
the Buddha could be a complex proposition for the Dalits in the
country who had embraced Buddhism. "After all, there cannot be two
prophets within one religion," he said.

Referring to Ambedkar's 1936 speech, where he had said that he was
born a Hindu but would not die as one, Mr. Illaya said, "I say that
Ambedkar was not even born a Hindu."

Mr. Illaya said that Ambedkar came from an untouchable caste.


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[ZESTCaste] Kancha Ilaya extols Ambedkar’s role

http://www.thehindu.com/2010/02/06/stories/2010020658970300.htm

Karnataka - Mangalore

Kancha Ilaya extols Ambedkar's role

Staff Correspondent

MANGALORE: Kancha Ilaya, revolutionary Dalit writer, has dedicated his
latest book, "Post-Hindu India", to the Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, Karl
Marx and Ambedkar, referring to all of them as prophets.

He was delivering the keynote address at a seminar on "Ambedkar and
the contemporary Dalit movement in India", organised by Mangalore
University's Centre for Dr. B.R. Ambedkar Studies here on Friday. He
said that Ambedkar had influenced a large number of people across a
wide area.

Sangham

The Buddha, through his concept of "sangham" or the communitarian,
created the first organised religious denomination at a time when
Hinduism was disorganised and Islam and Christianity were yet to be
born. While the Buddha preached a life of spirituality, Jesus was the
first to introduce the concepts of "God" and "all are equal before
God" at a time when Israel was a loose collection of hierarchical
groups with the Samaritans at the bottom.

Reformation


Muhammad, he said, reformed the Arab world, which was a constellation
of tribes before the onset of his philosophy. And Marx managed to
capture the imagination of a post-industrialised Europe, where the
workers were an oppressed lot.

Ambedkar attempted to breach, what was in his time, the last edifice
of oppression in the world by liberating the 'lower' castes of the
Indian subcontinent. "His liberation of Dalits by encouraging them to
embrace Buddhism made him a prophet of equal standing with the rest,"
he said.

However, the placing of Ambedkar as a prophet alongside the likes of
the Buddha could be a complex proposition for the Dalits in the
country who had embraced Buddhism. "After all, there cannot be two
prophets within one religion," he said.

Referring to Ambedkar's 1936 speech, where he had said that he was
born a Hindu but would not die as one, Mr. Illaya said, "I say that
Ambedkar was not even born a Hindu."

Mr. Illaya said that Ambedkar came from an untouchable caste.


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[ZESTCaste] Fwd: EU study Combating Child labour + report 'Understanding Untouchability''

 

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From: <g.oonk@indianet.nl>
Date: Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:28 PM
Subject: EU study Combating Child labour + report 'Understanding
Untouchability''
To:

Dear reader,
We would to draw your attention to two important reports that have
recently been published.
The first is a study by the European Commission, mandated by the
European member states (the Council) called Combating Child Labour.
Its gives an overview of areas where the EU has possibilities to be
active against child labour in the world. These areas incude:
- development co-operation e.g. on education
- human rights dialogues
- trade policy
- public procurement
- corporate social responsibility.
At the end the European Commission raises a number of policy questions
to be answered by the European institutions, the member states and
other ''stakeholders''.
The campaign ''Stop Child Labour - School is the best place to work''
plans to react to these questions. You or your organization could of
course do the same ánd/or or send us your remarks which we can take
into account formullating our answers.
You can find the report here:
http://www.indianet.nl/pdf/CombatingChildLabour.pdf
A ground-breaking study - ''Understanding Untouchability'' on caste
discrimination in the Indian state of Gujarat shows that the practice
of ''untouchability'''is still widely prevalent. The report also makes
clear that the Indian state fails to address the issue. The report
lists 98 forms of untouchability by non-Dalits against Dalits but also
points out the discrimination between Dalit sub-castes. The report
while being rigorously scientific is also a call to action.
See:
http://idsn.org/news-resources/idsn-news/read/article/untouchability-still-rife-in-modern-
india/128

Kind regards,

Gerard Oonk

director India Committee of the Netherlands
Mariaplaats 4e,
3511 LH Utrecht
tel. 030-2321340;
fax.030-2322246

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[ZESTCaste] No reservation quota in promotions: Raj HC

 

http://www.newkerala.com/news/fullnews-45468.html

No reservation quota in promotions: Raj HC

Jaipur, Feb 5 : The Rajasthan High Court today quashed two
notifications issued by the state government for promotion of officers
from SC and ST category from the state administrative service(RAS), on
reservation basis, to Indian Administrative Service(IAS).

The High Court division bench comprising Justices RS Rathore and NK
Jain while accepting writ petitions filed by Bajrang Lal and 18 others
against the notifications issued in 2002 and 2008, held that
reservation could not be accorded in promotion to the officers from
reserved categories.

The court also directed the state government to prepare afresh the
general seniority list.

As many as 19 petitions over the issue were pending before the court
since 1993 and the verdict paved the way for promotion of officers
from general unreserved class.

As many as 56 RAS officers are due to be promoted to the IAS.

--UNI

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